Podcast by Christopher White and Max Thomas
27 April 2025
In this powerful episode of Addicted to Recovery, hosts Chris White and Max Thomas are joined by Shamil, who shares his remarkable story of addiction, rock bottom, and transformation. Shamil speaks openly about growing up in London, his early encounters with alcohol, and how casual substance use developed into a full-blown addiction to cocaine and alcohol by his late twenties.
He reflects on the struggles of working in education while secretly battling addiction, repeated hospital admissions, and the painful descent into homelessness, life-threatening health conditions, and profound isolation.
However, Shamil’s story is ultimately one of hope and redemption. Through full surrender, deep spiritual work, and complete commitment to the 12-Step programme, he found a new way to live. Now, with over two and a half years' sobriety, Shamil works in the same hospital where he was once a patient, helping others on their journey to recovery.
This episode is filled with powerful insights about emotional healing, the importance of honesty, and the ongoing need for consistency, humility, and spiritual maintenance. Shamil’s authenticity and humility shine as he reminds listeners that "everywhere I go, I take God with me" — a moving testament to living a sober life, one day at a time.
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20 April 2025
In this powerful and heartfelt episode of Addicted to Recovery, hosts Christopher White and Max Thomas sit down with guest Alex, a fellow recovering addict, to explore his lived experience of gambling addiction.
The conversation starts with a nostalgic reflection as Alex and Max realise they once attended the same school — both unaware at the time that beneath the surface, they were already battling the early signs of addiction. Alex shares his story openly, tracing the roots of his compulsive gambling back to childhood, shaped by family separation, emotional instability, and early exposure to betting through his father’s habits.
Alex’s journey is marked by emotional vulnerability, financial ruin, and the manipulation that so often accompanies addiction. He speaks candidly about his pattern of deception, the toxic cycle of winning and chasing losses, and the crushing shame that kept him isolated for years. His story highlights the often invisible nature of gambling addiction — one that doesn’t always carry the visible signs of other dependencies but is just as destructive.
Throughout the conversation, Max and Chris reflect on the shared emotional struggles underlying addiction — the inner void, the hunger for validation, and the disconnect between how they appeared to the world and how they felt inside. Alex recounts the moments where addiction had him trapped, including the extraordinary highs and lows of gambling away over £120,000 in a single weekend, and the devastating impact this had on his relationships, self-worth and mental health.
Despite the setbacks, Alex also shares how he has begun rebuilding his life. He talks about finding strength through community, his experiences in rehabilitation, and the importance of peer support. Now four months clean — the longest since his addiction began — Alex has also founded Walking and Talking, a safe and non-judgemental group for those struggling with gambling, offering connection and support through simple conversation and companionship.
The episode closes on an uplifting note, with Max and Chris emphasising the importance of fellowship, recovery programmes, self-reflection, and honest conversation. Together, they highlight that addiction is about far more than substances or behaviours — it’s about the internal battles and emotional wounds we try to numb — and that lasting recovery is possible through connection, action, and community.
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13 April 2025
This week on Addicted to Recovery, Chris and Max sit down with a very special guest: Michelle Heaton, singer, television personality, and beloved member of the pop group Liberty X. Michelle shares her powerful and deeply personal story as she approaches a major milestone — four years of sobriety.
In an open and heartfelt conversation, Michelle reflects on her rise to fame, her early life growing up in Newcastle, and the pressures of the music industry that quietly fed into her struggle with addiction. Despite having no family history of addiction, Michelle speaks candidly about always feeling “different” as a child, and how performing became her first emotional escape long before substances entered the picture.
The trio explore the complex path from social drinking and partying at the height of Liberty X’s success, to the slow and painful progression into daily dependence. Michelle bravely recounts her battles with alcohol and how her early menopause after a hysterectomy acted as a turning point in her descent into addiction. She discusses the devastating impact it had on her relationships, her health, and her self-worth — including hospital visits where doctors warned her she would not survive if she continued drinking.
Michelle opens up about her rock bottom moment, the pivotal support from her husband, close friends like Katie Price, and her journey into rehab during the COVID-19 pandemic. She shares the emotional experience of receiving letters from loved ones during treatment, which forced her to confront the full scope of her addiction and the damage it had caused.
Throughout the conversation, Michelle also highlights the ongoing importance of fellowship meetings, spiritual growth, and daily routines that sustain her sobriety. She now uses her platform to break the stigma around addiction, offering hope and inspiration to others who are struggling.
This is a raw, honest, and uplifting episode about resilience, recovery, and the life-changing gift of living fully present — just in time for Michelle to celebrate her incredible four-year sobriety anniversary.
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06 April 2025
In this deeply moving episode of Addicted to Recovery, hosts Christopher White and Max Thomas sit down with Marie, a recovering addict and founder of a life-changing charity for women involved in street prostitution. With raw honesty and vulnerability, Marie opens up about her personal battles with addiction, the lasting effects of childhood trauma, and how those experiences shaped her path.
Marie shares how clean time has become a cornerstone of her accountability and personal growth, emphasising that staying sober is about more than simply abstaining from substances—it's about healing emotionally and mentally. She reflects on the profound impact of unresolved trauma from her early life, and how it fed into the patterns of her addiction. From a young age, Marie felt different and disconnected, leading her to seek comfort in destructive behaviours, including food and substance abuse.
Her story unfolds with powerful moments of hardship, from early motherhood and turbulent relationships to the devastating consequences of addiction. Yet within that darkness, Marie found a turning point—a moment of clarity that propelled her towards recovery. Through multiple cycles of relapse and surrender, she began building a new life rooted in self-awareness, community, and service.
Marie speaks candidly about the importance of self-soothing and emotional regulation in recovery, and how learning to face discomfort without escape was transformative. She also discusses the healing power of making amends and rebuilding broken relationships, a process that brought deeper understanding and peace into her life.
Today, Marie dedicates her life to supporting women trapped in cycles of street prostitution and addiction, using her own journey as a beacon of hope. Her work through her charity not only helps others, but continues to ground her own recovery, giving her purpose and fulfilment. This episode is a powerful reminder that recovery is not a destination—it’s a lifelong journey of self-discovery, connection, and giving back.
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30 March 2025
What if the key to lasting change wasn’t some grand plan, but simply focusing on today? In this episode, the hosts explore the power of living in the moment, discussing how a "just for today" mindset can help overcome anxiety, break negative habits, and build a more fulfilling life.
A special highlight of this episode is Max’s incredible milestone—six years of clean time. He opens up about his journey, the struggles he has faced, and the lessons that have shaped him along the way. His story is a raw and inspiring reminder that real transformation happens one day at a time. The hosts reflect on the power of personal milestones and why celebrating progress, no matter how small, is essential to long-term success.
The conversation is filled with real-life insights and practical strategies to stay motivated without feeling overwhelmed. Rather than getting lost in the pressure of long-term goals, they discuss how small, consistent actions can create lasting change. With personal stories, humour, and heartfelt reflections, this episode is both inspiring and deeply relatable.
If you're looking for motivation, fresh perspectives, or simple yet powerful ways to make each day count, this is an episode you won’t want to miss. Tune in and discover how embracing “just for today” can shift your mindset and transform your life.
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24 March 2025
In this episode of Addicted to Recovery, hosts Christopher White and Max Thomas sit down with Raymond Ramos, a passionate advocate for recovery who has dedicated his life to helping addicts find hope and healing. Having been in recovery for over 34 years, Raymond shares his journey from addiction to a life of service and transformation.
Raymond has been sharing his story in UK and US prisons for over 13 years, emphasizing the importance of hope and transformation. He discusses the impact of his visits, how prisoners react to his Brooklyn accent, and the power of seeing someone who once walked their path now living a fulfilling life in recovery. He stresses that carrying the message to those in dark places is his most meaningful service work.
The role of service in recovery is a central theme in this episode. Raymond emphasizes the importance of H&I (Hospitals & Institutions) service, recalling how he first heard the message of recovery in a similar setting. He encourages consistent service, noting that people often stop doing what worked for them once they get clean, which can lead to relapse. The conversation highlights the significance of simple service commitments, like making coffee at meetings, and how they contribute to stability and responsibility.
Raymond shares his childhood struggles, growing up in Brooklyn as a Nuyorican with a single mother and experiencing deep-seated trauma, including his mother’s grief over losing a child and his own battle with a congenital heart disease. He talks about the emotional pain of an absent father and how early feelings of shame, abandonment, and separation anxiety planted the seeds for addiction. Reflecting on recovery, he discusses how step work helped him uncover and address these underlying wounds.
His addiction began early, starting with alcohol at the age of five and progressing to marijuana by age ten. By 13, he was using cocaine, and at 15, he was smoking crack. He describes how his life quickly spiraled, leading him to crime, violence, and a complete loss of control. His turning point came at 17, when he heard an H&I speaker share the message of recovery, sparking hope and change. Since getting clean, he has dedicated his life to helping others, particularly those who are still suffering in jails and institutions.
Raymond discusses the necessity of a spiritual solution in recovery, sharing that many people relapse because they neglect their spiritual growth. He explains that addiction isn’t just about substances—it’s a disease that affects the mind, body, and soul. The conversation highlights the importance of humility, continued learning, and staying connected to recovery principles.
This episode serves as a powerful reminder of the life-changing potential of recovery. Raymond’s story is one of transformation, resilience, and service, making it an inspiring listen for anyone struggling with addiction or working in the recovery space.
Tune in to Addicted to Recovery for more raw and real conversations about the journey to sobriety.
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